De: Nobuyoshi Sudo [sudo-nobuyoshi@jp.yamatake.com] Envoyé: mercredi 19 novembre 2008 07:50 À: Regis Houllier; Ann Mathijs Cc: Toru Ishikuma; Katsuhiko Fujii; AizawaTakamasa Objet: Re: Re[6]: transmitter sample order/YEU-STP-077 Pièces jointes: Samples order YEU-STP-077.xls Dear Regis-san, (YEU-STP-077) Further to my following message, I have checked our very best STP and would like to offer as attached. Please refer to the attached sheet for the details. Model number should be corrected as shown in the attached sheet. Thanks for your attention and regards, Nobuyoshi Sudo at Shinagawa B.C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nobuyoshi Sudo" To: "Regis Houllier" ; "Ann Mathijs" Cc: "Toru Ishikuma" ; "Katsuhiko Fujii" ; "AizawaTakamasa" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:53 AM Subject: Re: Re[6]: transmitter sample order > Dear Regis-san, > > This is to acknowledge the receipt of your following STP request. > I will consider the very best STP within today and will advise within > today taking into > consideration of sample. Kindly wait for a while. > > Best regards, > > Nobuyoshi Sudo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Regis Houllier" > To: "Ann Mathijs" ; "Nobuyoshi Sudo" > > Cc: "Toru Ishikuma" ; "Katsuhiko Fujii" > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:45 AM > Subject: RE: Re[6]: transmitter sample order > > >> Dear Ann, >> I'd like to orders samples for Ukrgastech as attached. >> The units will be free of charge. >> When order will be ready for shipment, please contact Nataliya in order >> to define where to ship the goods. I guess it should be sent to Brussels >> first then to Germany and then to Ukraine. >> I have also to rent my PDA CFN100 for couple of weeks. I will bring next >> time when I come to Brussels. >> >> Dear Sudo san, >> Can I ask you a special price for the attached 4 GTX transmitters? This >> is samples for Laboratory test in Ukraine. This is follow up of visit a >> month ago with Ishikuma san. Ukrgastech is reselling Honeywell >> transmitters at the moment. If we pass test at local laboratory, the next >> step will be business plan and long term agreement. >> Thanks in advance, >> Regis >> >> YAMATAKE Europe >> Regis Houllier >> Industrial Division Director >> Bosdellestraat 120/2 >> B-1933 zaventem (Sterrebeek) >> Belgium >> >> Tel. : + (33) (0) 3 22 54 83 47 >> Fax. : + (33) (0) 3 22 54 83 29 >> GSM : + (33) (0) 6 89 59 13 19 >> E-mail : rhoullier@yamatake-europe.com >> Web : http://www.yamatake-europe.com >> >> On October 1, 2008 the Yamatake Group became the azbil Group. >> azbil Group---Leaping Ahead from Yamatake's 100 Years/Human-centered >> automation >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Natalka Malikova [mailto:malikova_n@list.ru] >> Envoyé : mardi 18 novembre 2008 15:20 >> À : Regis Houllier >> Cc : Toru Ishikuma >> Objet : Re[6]: transmitter sample order >> >> Dear Regis, >> >> A) Yes, that's exaclty what they meant. The available option A is ok with >> us. >> C) We will try to use Honeywell communicator. But maybe it would be more >> effective to have for the temporary use the Yamatake communicator from >> the very beginning. >> >> Sergey informed that recently the testing of Yokogawa transmitters have >> been completed in Ukraine. As Sergey is really impressed with the new >> Yamatake transmitters he is eager to promote it in Ukraine. >> That's why before the customers started using the Yokogawa transmitters >> full-scale, we have to perform the tests as soon as possible. >> Perhaps it would be faster to have the most suitable communicator from >> the beginning, as you can't send it directly from Belgium to Ukraine by >> one-day DHL express, in case our communicator won?t work. The company has >> to perform the custom clearance basing on the valid contract and invoices >> etc. So it would take more time (one-two weeks) to deliver the device >> through our agents in Hungary or Germany. >> >> So to sum up, we confirm our selection, you can contact the factory. >> Please inform us as to the approximate date of transmitters? delivery to >> Belgium. >> >> Best regards, >> Nataliya >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Regis Houllier" >> To: "Natalka Malikova" >> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:49:01 +0100 >> Subject: RE: Re[4]: transmitter sample order >> >>> Dear Nataliya, >>> A)You mean "A" option is OK, not B? >>> C) yes this one should work for GTX configuration. We have in Yamatake >>> equivalent called SFC160 communicator? This is almost same handy >>> communicator. Attached is the spec sheet. If STS103 does not work, I >>> will temporary pass you my SFC160 or CFN100 configurator for the non >>> Hart model. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Regis >>> >>> >>> YAMATAKE Europe >>> Regis Houllier >>> Industrial Division Director >>> Bosdellestraat 120/2 >>> B-1933 zaventem (Sterrebeek) >>> Belgium >>> >>> Tel. : + (33) (0) 3 22 54 83 47 >>> Fax. : + (33) (0) 3 22 54 83 29 >>> GSM : + (33) (0) 6 89 59 13 19 >>> E-mail : rhoullier@yamatake-europe.com >>> Web : http://www.yamatake-europe.com >>> >>> On October 1, 2008 the Yamatake Group became the azbil Group. >>> azbil Group---Leaping Ahead from Yamatake's 100 Years/Human-centered >>> automation >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De?: Natalka Malikova [mailto:malikova_n@list.ru] >>> Envoyé?: mardi 18 novembre 2008 12:29 >>> À?: Regis Houllier >>> Objet?: Re[4]: transmitter sample order >>> >>> Dear Regis, >>> >>> Here is the reply from our technicians: >>> A) B option is also ok with us >>> B) We confirm XX, we will perform calibration on site. >>> C) We have a range of HART communicators, that is why most likely we >>> will be able to perform calibration with it. But can you provide for >>> testing purpose Yamatake Smart field communicator for the one >>> transmitter with output 4 - 20 mA? As we will not be able to calibrate >>> it without this communicator. >>> We have Honeywell STS103 smart field communicator, if it is compatible >>> with the new Yamtake transmitter, then we can use it for the >>> calibration. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Best regards, >>> Nataliya >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Regis Houllier" >>> To: "Natalka Malikova" >>> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:21:21 +0100 >>> Subject: RE: Re[2]: transmitter sample order >>> >>> > Dear Nataliya, >>> > Here are minor corrections again, sorry about that >>> > A) The Corrosion proof painting is not available yet, so I change "B" >>> > to "A" in red in attached file >>> > B) As no custom calibration code selected ("R1"), the calibration >>> > value of the units will be default calibration which is 0-50Kpas for >>> > DP transmitters and 0-2Mpas got GP and AP transmitters. As you said >>> > you have possibility to perform your own calibration at site, it >>> > should be OK. If you want samples calibrated at values listed on the >>> > attached document, I need to add "R1" option instead of "XX" at the >>> > end of each Model decoding number. Let me know. >>> > C) We don't have Hart communicator sample >>> > D) You are correct the A/D means Analog / Digital and I/O means >>> > Input/Output >>> > >>> > Thanks to confirm by return, so I can ask factory to start production. >>> > >>> > Best regards, >>> > Regis >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > YAMATAKE Europe >>> > Regis Houllier >>> > Industrial Division Director >>> > Bosdellestraat 120/2 >>> > B-1933 zaventem (Sterrebeek) >>> > Belgium >>> > >>> > Tel. : + (33) (0) 3 22 54 83 47 >>> > Fax. : + (33) (0) 3 22 54 83 29 >>> > GSM : + (33) (0) 6 89 59 13 19 >>> > E-mail : rhoullier@yamatake-europe.com >>> > Web : http://www.yamatake-europe.com >>> > >>> > On October 1, 2008 the Yamatake Group became the azbil Group. >>> > azbil Group---Leaping Ahead from Yamatake's 100 Years/Human-centered >>> > automation >>> > -----Message d'origine----- >>> > De?: Natalka Malikova [mailto:malikova_n@list.ru] >>> > Envoyé?: mardi 18 novembre 2008 10:39 >>> > À?: Regis Houllier >>> > Cc?: Toru Ishikuma >>> > Objet?: Re[2]: transmitter sample order >>> > >>> > Dear Regis, >>> > >>> > Here are the answers to the questions from your email on 3 Nov: >>> > >>> > 1. We need 2 DP transmitters for the testing purposes according to the >>> > conditions from the customer's side. They want to test both >>> > transmitters with and without HART. >>> > >>> > 2. Basically, customers use the transmitters without indicators, that >>> > is why we chose to test them without indicators. Also, could you give >>> > for testing purposes a Hart communicator sample? >>> > >>> > 3. Corrected. >>> > >>> > 4. We chose XX in this selection, as we have the capacity and the >>> > equipment to perform the calibration at site. Also we'd like to test >>> > the new transmitter's calibration process itself. >>> > >>> > The formed order is in the attachment. >>> > >>> > Also, I have a question from my side. I've translated the presentation >>> > of the new transmitters for Sergej Girenko. Could you help me please >>> > with several abbreviations? >>> > - presentation file, page 17, Characterization chart, A/D (is it >>> > analog/digital?) and I/O (is it input/output?) >>> > >>> > Thank you. >>> > Best regards, >>> > Nataliya >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: "Regis Houllier" >>> > To: "Natalka Malikova" >>> > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:29:42 +0100 >>> > Subject: RE: transmitter sample order >>> > >>> > > Dear Nataliya, >>> > > >>> > > Thanks for the model numbers. I have some questions. >>> > > >>> > > 1. First why do you need 2 DP transmitters, one with Hart >>> > > protocol and one without? >>> > > >>> > > 2. All transmitters are without indicator on front. Is it OK. >>> > > In such case only via Hart communication or 4-20mA output you can >>> > > see pressure values. >>> > > >>> > > 3. The gauge pressure transmitter should be >>> > > GTX60G-BAAAECB-AA1XBA3-XX, not GTX60A-BAAAECB-AA1XBA3-XX >>> > > >>> > > 4. For GTX31D, you have selected Stainless Steel 630 for bolts >>> > > and nuts (code C in selection I VII). Is it really needed of Carbon >>> > > steel bolts and nuts will be enough for Laboratory test? >>> > > >>> > > 5. For each transmitter, we have to make selection in the >>> > > option table. For example, for Absolute TX you have selected : >>> > > GTX60A-BAAAECA-AA1XBA3 but we need two extra digits at the end for >>> > > the options like: GTX60A-BAAAECA-AA1XBA3-XX. So I recommend to put >>> > > GTX60A-BAAAECA-AA1XBA3-R1 and indicate the custom calibration at >>> > > order level. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > For the calibration at site, if you give the range at order level >>> > > (option R1), you don't need to perform any calibration at site. >>> > > >>> > > As most of the transmitters will be ordered with Hart protocol, you >>> > > need to use Hart 375 handy loader from Rosemount . We don't have >>> > > such calculator. Another possibility will be to use the PDA as >>> > > attached or SFC as attached but it works with SFN 4-20mA selection >>> > > in table I (output)and do not work with Hart protocol. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > For accuracy calculation, The GTX31D is 0.04% up to turndown 10. >>> > > From 0-100Kpas to 0-10Kpas ranges. Below 0-10Kpas, you should apply >>> > > formula page 6 of the GTX31D specification sheet >>> > > >>> > > For GTX60A, accuracy is 0.15% up to turn down 10 from 0-3.5Mpas to >>> > > 0-350Kpas, below this, you should apply formula on page 5 of the >>> > > GTX60A specification sheet >>> > > >>> > > For GTX60G, accuracy is 0.04% up to turn down 10 from 0-3.5Mpas to >>> > > 0-350Kpas, below this, you should apply formula on page 5 of the >>> > > GTX60G specification sheet >>> > > >>> > > Hope this is clear enough, don't hesitate to ask again if something >>> > > is not clear. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Please review the models to be ordered and send it back to me again. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Best regards, >>> > > >>> > > Regis >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > YAMATAKE Europe >>> > > >>> > > Regis Houllier >>> > > >>> > > Industrial Division Director >>> > > >>> > > Bosdellestraat 120/2 >>> > > >>> > > B-1933 zaventem (Sterrebeek) >>> > > >>> > > Belgium >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Tel. : + (33) (0) 3 22 54 83 47 >>> > > >>> > > Fax. : + (33) (0) 3 22 54 83 29 >>> > > >>> > > GSM : + (33) (0) 6 89 59 13 19 >>> > > >>> > > E-mail : rhoullier@yamatake-europe.com >>> > > >>> > > Web : http://www.yamatake-europe.com >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On October 1, 2008 the Yamatake Group became the azbil Group. >>> > > >>> > > azbil Group---Leaping Ahead from Yamatake's 100 Years/Human-centered >>> > > automation >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -----Message d'origine----- >>> > > De : Natalka Malikova [mailto:malikova_n@list.ru] >>> > > Envoy? : jeudi 30 octobre 2008 12:35 >>> > > ? : Regis Houllier >>> > > Cc : Toru Ishikuma >>> > > Objet : transmitter sample order >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Dear Mr. Houlier, >>> > > >>> > > Dear Mr. Ishikuma, >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Thank you very much for the explanation. We are ready with the order >>> > > now. >>> > > >>> > > Please find attached the list of transmitters needed for testing. >>> > > When you receive the transmitter from Japan, we will give you the >>> > > details of the consignee, most likely it will be our logistic >>> > > partner in Germany, we will pick up the units from their site. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Also Andrey and Sergey have several questions: >>> > > >>> > > 1) concerning configurator or calibrating programs/software for the >>> > > transmitters. Do you provide it? As our technical specialist will >>> > > have to install and put into the operation the sample transmitters >>> > > with the help of it. >>> > > >>> > > 2) concerning the accuracy of transmitters - the specification shows >>> > > that the average accuracy is 0.15, so 0.04 is the maximum achievable >>> > > accuracy? or the accuracy is achievable only on several models? >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Best regards, >>> > > >>> > > Nataliya >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ATTACHMENT: application/pdf (SS2-CFN100-0100.pdf) >>> > > ATTACHMENT: application/pdf (SS2-SFC100-0100.pdf) >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > ????? ????????? ??????! >>> > http://r.mail.ru/cln4501/rabota.mail.ru >>> > >>> > >>> > ATTACHMENT: application/vnd.ms-excel (Samples order.xls) >>> > >>> >>> >>> ????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?? >>> ???????@Mail.ru >>> http://r.mail.ru/cln3253/otvet.mail.ru/ >>> >>> >>> ATTACHMENT: application/pdf (SS2-SFC100-0100.pdf) >>> >> >> >> GoGo.Ru - ????? ????? ? ?????????. ???? ?? >> ????, ????????? ? ?????! >> ???????? - http://r.mail.ru/cln3870/gogo.ru >> >> >