差出人: Grexa, Michael [Michael.Grexa@rmg.com]
送信日時: 2008年12月2日火曜日 8:56
宛先: Toru Ishikuma
CC: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
件名: AW: Actual Status on Technical Problems

Dear Mr. Ishikuma,

please be informed that we were able to solve the outstanding communication problems by our software. This software in the meantime has passed our internal tests successfully.

 

In an earlier mail (dated Sept. 17) you stated

Quote:

We have software that was specially designed for the PTB. This  special software can be used with our standard configuration (HGC – HFA – HDM)  and running with HGM on the same PC.

As I mentioned before this software was designed to work in accordance with the PTB requirements. When a manual calibration is performed with this software, a limit check will be carried out by this software.

 Unquote.

We like to learn more about this. So please provide this software and its documentation to allow crosscheck against our solution.

 

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / With best regards

Dr. Michael Grexa

Leiter Konstruktion & Entwicklung
Head of R&D Department

RMG MESSTECHNIK GMBH
Otto-Hahn-Strasse 5
D-35510 Butzbach

Phone +49 6033 897 116
Fax +49 6033 897191
Mobil +49 172 7320132
E-Mail michael.grexa@rmg.com
Internet www.rmg.com


Von: Toru Ishikuma [mailto:TIshikuma@yamatake-europe.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 28. November 2008 11:44
An: Grexa, Michael
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Betreff: RE: Actual Status on Technical Problems

 

Dear Dr. Grexa,

 

Could you please let me know if everything is OK or not?
I have not heard anything from you for the last one month+. I hope no news = good news !

 

We are standing-by to help you in case you have any problem.

 

Best regards,

 

Toru Ishikuma
Managing Director
Yamatake Europe NV
Bosdellestraat 120/2
BE -1933 Zaventem

Direct: +32 (0)2 785 07 19
Mobile : +32 (0) 497 47 27 15
FAX : +32 (0)2 785 07 11
www.yamatake-europe.com
www.azbil.com

On October 1, 2008 the Yamatake Group became the azbil Group.
azbil Group---Leaping Ahead from Yamatake's 100 Years/Human-centered automation

 

 


From: Toru Ishikuma
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:17 PM
To: 'Grexa, Michael'
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Subject: RE: Actual Status on Technical Problems

Dear Fr. Grexa,

 

Is everything going OK?

"Communication alive check" and "Calibration with RMG flowcomputer" are implemented well?

 

Should you have any question, please let us know as usual.

 

 

Thanks and regards,

 

 

Toru Ishikuma
Managing Director
Yamatake Europe NV
Bosdellestraat 120/2
BE -1933 Zaventem

Direct: +32 (0)2 785 07 19
Mobile : +32 (0) 497 47 27 15
FAX : +32 (0)2 785 07 11
www.yamatake-europe.com
www.azbil.com

On October 1, 2008 the Yamatake Group became the azbil Group.
azbil Group---Leaping Ahead from Yamatake's 100 Years/Human-centered automation

 

 


From: Grexa, Michael [mailto:Michael.Grexa@rmg.com]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:00 AM
To: Toru Ishikuma
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Subject: AW: Actual Status on Technical Problems

Dear Mr. Ishikuma,

thank you for providing your technical report. I have forwarded it to our software engineer for detailed check and will come back to you with our comments asap.

 

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / With best regards

Dr. Michael Grexa

Leiter Konstruktion & Entwicklung
Head of R&D Department

RMG MESSTECHNIK GMBH
Otto-Hahn-Strasse 5
D-35510 Butzbach

Phone +49 6033 897 116
Fax +49 6033 897191
Mobil +49 172 7320132
E-Mail michael.grexa@rmg.com
Internet www.rmg.com


Von: Toru Ishikuma [mailto:TIshikuma@yamatake-europe.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Oktober 2008 13:35
An: Grexa, Michael
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Betreff: RE: Actual Status on Technical Problems

 

 

<<Problem2 Integrity of SLD data.doc>>

Dear Dr. Grexa.
 
Here is the final report of the problem #2, SLD Comm. Error detection.
Please refer the attachment.
 
Conclusion :
In the experiments in Yamatake, we verified following.
When Fieldbus line is cutting between SLD and HGC, SLD return Ethernet response with SLD return code(Result) is not 00 00 00 00 value, and no HGC_data.

When HGC's power is off, SLD returns the same response.


Recommendation :
Please check SLD return code(Result) in every SLD Ethernet response.
And when SLD return code(Result) is not 00 00 00 00 value, please interpret that communication between SLD and HGC is NO GOOD.


Could you please convey all these information to your software engineer?
And should you have anything uncertain, please let us know.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Toru Ishikuma
Managing Director
Yamatake Europe NV
Bosdellestraat 120/2
BE -1933 Zaventem

Direct: +32 (0)2 785 07 19
Mobile : +32 (0) 497 47 27 15
FAX : +32 (0)2 785 07 11
www.yamatake-europe.com
www.azbil.com

On October 1, 2008 the Yamatake Group became the azbil Group.
azbil Group---Leaping Ahead from Yamatake's 100 Years/Human-centered automation

 

________________________________

From: Toru Ishikuma
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:26 AM
To: 'Grexa, Michael'
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Subject: RE: Actual Status on Technical Problems

 

Thank you for he reply, Dr. Grexa !!
I am waiting for your information.
 
Best regards,

Toru Ishikuma
Managing Director
Yamatake Europe NV
Belgium
Tel +32 (0) 2.785.07.19
Fax +32 (0) 2.785.07.11

 

________________________________

From: Grexa, Michael [mailto:Michael.Grexa@rmg.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:07 PM
To: Toru Ishikuma
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Subject: AW: Actual Status on Technical Problems

 

Dear Mr. Ishikuma,

 

please excuse the impolite wording of my last email.

Anyway, we are now working on a software solution which uses HGC features as they are – without software modification on Yamatake’s side.

Hopefully within the next few days we definitely will know, whether this will work. Well keep you informed.

 

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / With best regards

Dr. Michael Grexa

Leiter Konstruktion & Entwicklung
Head of R&D Department

RMG MESSTECHNIK GMBH
Otto-Hahn-Strasse 5
D-35510 Butzbach

Phone +49 6033 897 116
Fax +49 6033 897191
Mobil +49 172 7320132
E-Mail michael.grexa@rmg.com
Internet www.rmg.com

________________________________

Von: Toru Ishikuma [mailto:TIshikuma@yamatake-europe.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. September 2008 14:50
An: Grexa, Michael
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Betreff: RE: Actual Status on Technical Problems

 

Dear Dr. Grexa,

 

I was not familiar with the detail mechanism of calibration RF check function in PTB approved system.

That's why I said "automatic calibration is used in Yamatake PTB system" in the last meeting.

Please forgive me.

 

We discussed "RF check function was necessary" for the first time on September 9.

I didn't know this point was an issue, since it was not written in you e-mail on August 19 nor earlier.

Anyway, could we ask you to have this RF check in your system? Then is it still better to use HGC's semi-auto calibration?

 

Any feedback of your choice/design would be appreciated, which would help us in better understanding if we need to confirm further details. I would like to have more frequent communication with you in closing those issues (if you don't mind).

 

 

Thanks for your cooperation and best regards,

 

Toru Ishikuma
Managing Director
Yamatake Europe NV
Belgium
Tel +32 (0) 2.785.07.19
Fax +32 (0) 2.785.07.11

 

 

________________________________

From: Grexa, Michael [mailto:Michael.Grexa@rmg.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:39 AM
To: Marc Mayeux
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Toru Ishikuma
Subject: AW: Actual Status on Technical Problems

Dear Mr. Mayeux,

 

thank you for your message.

 

With respect to Problem #2:

We follow your advice to recheck our software. At first glance our software engineer stated, that the error codes as described can be seen during establishing the connection, but not when failures occur while the connection is already active. But he will investigate in detail soon.

 

With respect to Problem #3:

Existence of a special “PTB software”, controlling the calibration and running in parallel to HGM on PC, is a new information – more than surprising to come up at this stage of our cooperation. We lost a lot of time and money, because we did not know about it earlier and therefore went down a dead end road. 

 

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / With best regards

Dr. Michael Grexa

Leiter Konstruktion & Entwicklung
Head of R&D Department

RMG MESSTECHNIK GMBH
Otto-Hahn-Strasse 5
D-35510 Butzbach

Phone +49 6033 897 116
Fax +49 6033 897191
Mobil +49 172 7320132
E-Mail michael.grexa@rmg.com
Internet www.rmg.com

________________________________

Von: Marc Mayeux [mailto:MMayeux@yamatake-europe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. September 2008 07:50
An: Grexa, Michael
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Toru Ishikuma
Betreff: RE: Actual Status on Technical Problems

 

Dear Dr. Grexa

 

During our meeting of the 9th September in Butzbach we talked about the issues for the calibration mechanism.

 

 

Problem#2

 

There's no signal or sign in case of FB communication loss or power loss.

 

Our engineers checked the actual SLD error report at communication failure.

 

They see random data in the examples from RMG, and they have some worries.

Could RMG check the software again?

 

(1) status value

The last column in the excel file is 'status' and this is the SLD error report.

That value is different than what we would expect according to our SLD engineer.

So there might be a probability that the RMG software is misunderstanding the status?

 

Its ethernet message format.

typedef struct {

  unsigned char  ServiceCode;

  unsigned char  SubCode;

  unsigned short LinkAddress;

  unsigned long  InvokeId;

  unsigned long  Result;

  unsigned short DataSize;

  unsigned short Dummy2;

  unsigned char  Data[MAX_NET_DATA_LEN]; } LD_ETHERNET_MSG;

 

Result is 'status'(SLD error report) This format is...

byte1 (MSB), byte2, byte3, byte4 (LSB)

byte1 (MSB) and byte2 = 0xC006 (fixed, means SLD result)

 

byte 3 = service code

#define                        SV_GET_SEGMENTS               0x01     //get segment

#define                        SV_GET_NODES                     0x02     //get node

#define                        SV_READ_TAG                        0x10     //read tag(read data)

#define                        SV_WRITE_TAG                      0x11     //write tag(write data)

 

byte 4 = error code

#define  ER_ACCESS                          0x01    //access error

#define  ER_SERVICE                         0x02    //service error

#define  ER_INVOKE_ID                                  0x03    //invokedid error

#define  ER_TIMEOUT                         0x04    //timeout error

#define  ER_RESOURCE                                 0x05    //resource error

#define  ER_VCR                                            0x06    //vcr error

#define  ER_OTHER                            0x07    //other error

#define  ER_TAG_NOT_FOUND                       0x08     //tag not found

#define  ER_DISCONNECT                              0x09     //disconnected

#define  ER_DATA_SIZE                                 0x0a    //data size error

#define  ER_INDEX                             0x0b    //index error

#define  ER_SUBINDEX                                  0x0c     //sub index error

#define  ER_GROUP_NOT_FOUND                  0x0d    //group not found

#define  ER_GROUP_FULL                             0x0e    //group full

#define  ER_DEVICE_DEAD                             0x0f     //device dead

 

example

0xC0 06 10 09 (C0 06=error report from SLD, 10=read, 09=disconnected) means that the SLD is trying to read data from the HGC, but the HGC is disconnected.

 

(2) when check 'status'

Result ('status') is reported in every ethernet response message.

RMG one line data included 14 HGC data (scv, density, relative density, methane...).

It requires 14 times ethernet communication, RMG software may check Result of every response, but the status indication is only once.

How about another indication?

 

 

Problem #3

 

During our meeting of the 9th September in Butzbach we talked about the issues for the calibration mechanism.

 

RMG requested a semi-automatic calibration with the possibility to choose RF Limit check ON / RF limit check OFF

Because the manual calibration has not the RF Limit check option.

 

We consulted our engineers in Japan and they told us the following.

 

We have software that was specially designed for the PTB. This  special software can be used with our standard configuration (HGC – HFA – HDM)  and running with HGM on the same PC.

As I mentioned before this software was designed to work in accordance with the PTB requirements. When a manual calibration is performed with this software, a limit check will be carried out  by this software.

By the way, HGC performs "manual calibration" in the PTB approved system. Together with this special software, systematic calibration is done automatically. Sorry we were wrong. It was not HGC's own automatic calibration. "3.2   Calibration sequence example" description in the attached documents shows this special software's calibration sequence.

 

Can we ask to RMG to develop such a software to work with their flow computer? The problem is that if we have to develop such a software (semi-automatic with Limit check ON or OFF) it will not be finished by the end of this year! Our engineers have projects until at least the end of October. 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Marc Mayeux

Gas Analyzer Specialist

Yamatake Europe NV

Bosdellestraat 120/2

B-1933 Zaventem

Direct    + 32 (0)2 785 08 91

Fax       + 32 (0)2 785 07 11

Mobile   + 32 (0)497 47 27 19

mmayeux@yamatake-europe.com

 

________________________________

From: Toru Ishikuma
Sent: woensdag 3 september 2008 11:36
To: Grexa, Michael
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Subject: RE: Actual Status on Technical Problems

 

Dear Dr. Grexa,

 

Concerning the problem #2, could you please confirm the question that I sent you August 19 below?

 

In order to make sure "what is happening at the time of  SLD-Fieldbus line cutting", Yamatake engineer would like to see the "random data" which was reported in your e-mail dated August 19. Could I ask you to send it to us?

 

 

Thanks for your cooperation and best regards.

 

Toru Ishikuma
Managing Director
Yamatake Europe NV
Belgium
Tel +32 (0) 2.785.07.19
Fax +32 (0) 2.785.07.11

 

 

________________________________

From: Toru Ishikuma
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:01 PM
To: 'Grexa, Michael'
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp; Regis Houllier; Marc Mayeux
Subject: RE: Actual Status on Technical Problems

Dear Dr. Grexa,

 

Thank you very much for the update !!!

I am pleased to hear good progress has been made in your team !!

 

 

Referring to #2, I sent an e-mail (the attached) to you on July 15.

Did you worked with the "SLD's communication result message with service codes and error codes"which I sent July 11?

Just a confirmation would be appreciated.

 

 

Referring to #3, my understanding is that RMG Flow Computer needs to pick up the timing of calibration start and finish in automatic calibration.

 

Gas line switching mechanism is as follows ;

- Auto calibration setting is configured and downloaded to HGC by HGM through HFA

- RMG FC switches the solenoid valve when the calibration time comes. (RMG FC needs to pick up that timing from HGC)

- When calibration is finished, RMG FC switches the solenoid valve back to the sample gas. (RMG FC needs to pick up that timing from HGC)

 

Subject is Auto calibration, not semi or manual calibration. Am I correct?

Your confirmation by return for this point would be appreciated, too.

 

 

Very best regards,

 

Toru Ishikuma
Managing Director
Yamatake Europe NV
Belgium
Tel +32 (0) 2.785.07.19
Fax +32 (0) 2.785.07.11

 

 

________________________________

From: Grexa, Michael [mailto:Michael.Grexa@rmg.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:47 PM
To: Toru Ishikuma
Cc: Koerte, Jost; Weber, Andreas; Zajc, Achim Dr.; Glaeser, Philipp
Subject: Actual Status on Technical Problems

Dear Mr. Ishikuma,

 

Mr. Koerte asked me to update you with the actual status of HGC/SLD/Flow Computer communication problems. During our meeting held in Butzbach on June 04th, we discussed 3 technical issues, which had been addressed as

1.      stability of the fieldbus communication in case of HFA and SLD coexistence
2.      Integrity of the data of the SLD unit even under bus line cutting situation
3.      control of the HGC 303 unit /manual or semiautomatic start of calibration

 

Referring to # 1:

Using the recent version of HGM 4.84 we find the communication on the field bus in healthy condition error free (in presence of HFA and SLD at the bus). So this issue is settled now by your new software.

 

Referring to # 2:

In case of line cutting off the field bus or an undected power down of HGC unit, the SLD is providing random data on the modbus side. As this issue was not addressed by you any more we have implemented in our flow computer some read/write check to test the healthy condition of the whole communication line between

HGC via SLD to our flow computer. So this had to be settled by an additional feature of our software.

 

Referring to # 3:

As the semiautomatic mode of HGC, which was intended to be used, turned out to be non compliant to our needs for validation of the calibration results, we are still working on a software solution on our side to avoid erroneous calibrations and to fulfil PTBs requirements.

 

Please feel free to contact me, if more detailed information is required.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / With best regards

Dr. Michael Grexa

Leiter Konstruktion & Entwicklung
Head of R&D Department

RMG MESSTECHNIK GMBH
Otto-Hahn-Strasse 5
D-35510 Butzbach

Phone +49 6033 897 116
Fax +49 6033 897191
Mobil +49 172 7320132
E-Mail michael.grexa@rmg.com
Internet www.rmg.com

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